Stamps of the World Part 1

Lot number 4944 Quality: **/0

Selection in stockbook including MNH sets a.o. Mi. 874/81, 1063/68, 1113/16, vf/f

Lot number 4945 Quality: ✉

1908 Very nice leather card used as a wallet franked with 6 different stamps of China, foreign offices and Hong Kong from Chefoo to the Netherlands, unusual and in very fine condition, vf

Lot number 4946 Quality: ✉/PWST

China and Taiwan, ca. 135 postal (value) items, mostly modern, vf/f

Lot number 4947 Quality: **/*/0

Comprehensive collection in self-made album from classics to PRC and Taiwan, many hundreds of stamps and minisheets, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4948 Quality: **/*/0

Collection in stockbook, incl. Taiwan, mainly common material, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4949 Quality: **

1974/1975, 7 presentation packs and some extras other countries, vf

Lot number 4950 Quality: **

Large number of Vienna printing, Maluku, etc., also some other countries, vf/f

Lot number 4951 Quality: **/*/0

1871/2012 Very extensive collection in 2 binders from 1° emission including large quantity of modern cancelled and mint, vf/to be checked, vf/to be checked

Lot number 4952 Quality: */0

Old club book containing Japan classics incl. dragons, some forgeries, but high catalogue value, also some China, Korea and South America, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4953 Quality: */0

1872/1908 Old collection of "Cherry Blossoms", "Chrysanthemums", etc., including better stamps, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4954 Quality: ZK

1921, commemorative illustrated postcards for the 50th anniversary of the postal service tied with 1921 set cancelled LCD 81, vf (Yv. for stamps only €370)

Lot number 4955 Quality: FDC

1960/1985, many hundreds of FDCs nearly all different, earlier ones with address, vf/f

Lot number 4956 Quality: **/*/0

1883/2008, collection in ring binder from first issue mint, VF/F/ to be check.

Lot number 4957 Quality: **/*/0

Collection in 2 ring binders, incl. North- and South Korea, Laos, Manchuria, Ryu Kyu, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4958 Quality: **/*/0

Collection of various countries in 3 ring binders incm Burma, Nepal, Bhutan, Ceylon, India and States, Indochina, Vietnam, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 4959 Quality: **/*/0

Varied assortment in stockbook, club books, envelopes etc.., incl. Japan, Hong Kong and China, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4960 Quality: MIX

Collection in 2 binders, incl. China, Taiwan, Japan, Ceylon, Malaya, Hong Kong, Thailand, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4961 Quality: */0

Collection in Yvert album incl. India, Indonesia, N.E.I. (from n° 1 and 2), Indochine, Vietnam, Japan (several better), Macau, Malaysia, Mongolia, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4962 Quality: **/*/0

Various in 5 folders and stockbooks incl. Singapore, fiscals India, China, Hong Kong, Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines 1996/2003 in album *, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4963 Quality: **/0

1851/1999 Collection in 2 Schaubek albums from classic (varied qualities) with many complete annuals, almost everything stamped, but some extras mint (sheets), vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4964 Quality: */0

1851/1973, collection in album, with especially nice classic section, high catalogue value, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 4965 Quality: ✉

1850/1940, collection of over 50 letters in ring binder, including interesting items, vf/f.

Lot number 4966 Quality: */0

From 1860, accumulation in stockbook, on insert cards and album leaves, including classical, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4967 Quality: 0

1870/1909 Collection on old album leaves with some high values, some stamps somewhat stuck, so examine carefully, vf/f/to be checked, vf/to be checked

Lot number 4968 Quality: ✉

1928/1965, collection 50 covers of special flights, in ring binder, vf.

Lot number 4969 Quality: ✉

1939/1980 Collection of 64 illlustrated covers with hotel headings, all mounted on album pages, vf/f

Lot number 4970 Quality: ✉

Collection of gold replicas on covers in ring binder from stamps 1860, 22 carat gold (34 items), vf

Lot number 4971 Quality: **/*/0

Extensive collection of precancels in 2 stockbooks on alphabet, almost everything small size, also some Canada, many hundreds of stamps, vf/f

Lot number 4972 Quality: **/*/0

Collection with duplicates in albums and stockbook, etc., vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 4973 Quality: 0

Accumulation older period in stockbooks, boxes, covers, including precancels, perfins, bundles, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4974 Quality: (*)

Collection of precancels, sorted by state in 6 stockbooks + starting collection in Davo album, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4975 Quality: **/*/0

1847/2017, collection in 2 binders with reasonable amount of classics, including Hawai, incl. Back of the book, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 4976 Quality: MIX

Subscriptions, consignments in large covers with stamps, FDCs, etc., period 1997/2011 (12 vintages), vf

Lot number 4977 Quality: ✉/PWST/FDC

New York, Vienna, Geneva, accumulation 145 postal items, including aerograms, vf

Lot number 4978 Quality: */0

1181/1944 Collection in album, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4979 Quality: ✉/PWST

Ecuador : Accumulation 35 postal items various periods, vf/f

Lot number 4980 Quality: ✉/PWST

Cuba : Accumulation 46 items various periods, vf/f

Lot number 4981 Quality: MIX

Mexico : 1856/1970 Collection from classic onwards in ring binder incl. LP, service, etc., also some postal items, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4982 Quality: ✉/PWST

Peru : Accumulation 50 postal items various periods, vf/f

Lot number 4983 Quality: ✉/PWST

Venezuela (29x), Uruguay (30x), Paraguay (15x), Guatemala (41x), Chile (44x), accumulation of postal items various periods, vf/f

Lot number 4984 Quality: **/*/0

Collection in 2 thick binders, including Argentina, Brazil, Haiti, Honduras, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 4985 Quality: */0

Accumulation of various countries on insert cards, old and modern, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4987 Quality: **/*/0

Better stamps on cards, European countries including many Germany, Greece, Vatican, Monaco, France, to be checked for authenticity, vf/f/to be checked (Very high catalogue value)

Lot number 4988 Quality: */0

Schwaneberger Permanent album, Europe 1922 with quite a lot of stamps including Germany, France, Britain, good to be checked, ntz

Lot number 4989 Quality: **/*/0

Accumulation of many countries in 10 stockbooks, including USA, Commonwealth, Russia, China, French territories, Hungary, Switzerland, Netherlands, Spain, Belgium, Belgian Congo, Germany, mostly gest., vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 4990 Quality: **/*/0

Accumulation of various countries on +/-200 cards, mostly Belgian areas, including better material, mostly **/*, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4991 Quality: **/*/0

World collection in 6 albums Victoria, including better material, including Belgium, Scandinavia, Reich, Old German States, France, Great Britain, Netherlands, Spain, Commonwealth, USA, Japan, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4992 Quality: */0

Very old collection on sheets, mostly outside Europe including many English colonies, Brazil, also some Europe such as German States, f/to be checked

Lot number 4993 Quality: **/*/0

Better stamps on cards including French Territories, Turkey, Luxembourg, quality slightly mixed, but interesting item, vf/f/to be checked (High catalogue value)

Lot number 4994 Quality: */0/✉

Collection of various countries in 4 albums including Italy, Portugal and colonies, Greece, Germany, Scandinavia, Russia, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4995 Quality: **/*/0

Miscellaneous in 4 stockbooks, including Netherlands (from 1852) with better sets, Luxembourg, Italy ** and miscellaneous items including full sheetlets Andorra, Liechtenstein, etc., vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4996 Quality: **/*/0

Collections in 4 books, Europe CEPT with the better stamps up to 1972, Liechtenstein, Switzerland, France, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 4997 Quality: **/*

Theme religion, "La Madone dans l'Art", collection on loose sheets in large cover with better stamps, most with hinge, includes Macau Assistencia, vf (High catalogue value)

Lot number 4998 Quality: **/*/0

Accumulation of various countries including on cards in ring binder + stockbook, including Italy 117/20 gest. (2x), Switzerland BL 4 *, Great Britain, Monaco, France, vf/f

Lot number 4999 Quality: **/*/0

Accumulation of better stamps on cards, including Spanish Sahara 1/12* (with stamp), Morocco (including English offices), French and English territories, Japan, Shanghai, Korea, high vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5000 Quality: */0/✉

Collection outside Europe in 3 albums including China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, India, Egypt, USA, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5001 Quality: **/*/0

Collection on old album leafs including Mauritius, Jamaica, British Honduras, China, Hong Kong, India, mainly older material, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5002 Quality: ✉/PWST

Nice accumulation of airmail items including zeppelin, balloon post, also some older (not LP) items, vf/f

Lot number 5003 Quality: **/*/0

Collection in 4 old clipboards including nice Denmark, Netherlands (better years 30 including **), Dutch East Indies, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5004 Quality: 0

3 collections in 3 Davo albums Belgium (from 1960 onwards), Berlin (including the 3 clock series), Great Britain (including some classics), vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5005 Quality: **/*/0

Part of collection of European countries in album from Albania including Bosnia, Bulgaria, German States, Reich (with better sets including Wagner), occupation Belgium W.W. I, Bund, England, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5006 Quality: MIX

Interesting accumulation in stockbook with better stamps, including Vatican, Italy, Moresnet, vf/to be checked.

Lot number 5007 Quality: **/*/0

Miscellaneous in box, including France Pexip block (3x) (not nice but stamps **), Louvre cards and.a., Japan 4 Dragons, f/to be checked.

Lot number 5008 Quality: **/*/0

Better values stamps and some postal items, in stockbook, including China, high values Eng. territories, Tchad imperforate, Burundi, Perfins, Belgium, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5009 Quality: 0

Thick stockbook with interesting and very extensive collection 'The development vh postmark' with various types of stamps, sometimes on better stamps, 2nd part on date, classic USA etc. etc., unusual item, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5010 Quality: **/*/0

Miscellaneous on cards, including Switzerland (many mint), Spain and territories, Portugal, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5011 Quality: **/*/0

Miscellaneous, mostly European countries in 4 stockbooks including modern cancelled, Europe CEPT **, Italy, vf/f

Lot number 5012 Quality: MIX

Miscellaneous items including letters Scandinavia, Switzerland, Luxembourg including balloon post, Netherlands and Overseas Territories (including New Guinea Flood 1953 blocks of four **), England, Sabena, vf

Lot number 5013 Quality: **

Quantity of novelties various European countries, including Netherlands, Monaco, France, many Europe CEPT, etc., vf/f.

Lot number 5014 Quality: **

Very nice collection Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg, 1967/99, in 3 stockbooks, complete sets, vf

Lot number 5015 Quality: **/*/0

Collection in 5 books with Berlin, Vatican, Italy, Luxembourg, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5016 Quality: **/*/0

Accumulation France and Luxembourg, including nice classical, vf/f.

Lot number 5017 Quality: **/*/0

Accumulation of various countries, older period in 15 insert booklets, interesting to check, vf/f/to be checked, vf/to be checked

Lot number 5018 Quality: **/*/0

Accumulation of many countries on hundreds of stock cards, including many sets, including Egypt, South America, theme, Austria, etc., vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5019 Quality: **/0/FDC

Accumulation of various countries from A to Z and thematically in 2 ring binders, including sets, souvenir sheets and FDCs, vf/f

Lot number 5020 Quality: **/*/0

Miscellaneous items in 3 stockbooks, including Germany with old states (quality very mixed, outside Bayern), Danzig, occupied territories W.W. II, Serbia, Austria, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5021 Quality: **/*

Collection in album with Vatican from 1940, Europe CEPT 1956/1965 and Jordan Pope's visit, only a few stamps with hinge, vf

Lot number 5022 Quality: **/*/0

Miscellaneous items in 2 stockbooks, including lots of Monaco, France, omnibus French territories, vf/f

Lot number 5023 Quality: **/0

Accumulation on insert sheet including France Yv. 5 (damaged), Belgium Express and Telegraphes, Netherlands 1934 **, vf/f/to be checked (High catalogue value)

Lot number 5024 Quality: **/*/0

Collection of stamps with overprints in binder, including Belgium, Congo, Russia, Switzerland, vf/f.

Lot number 5025 Quality: **/*/0

North Africa, collection in thick stockbook with Morocco (lots of mint including tête-bêche), Algeria, Tunisia, Italian regions, Egypt, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5026 Quality: **/*/0

Various countries in 2 stockbooks including Germany, China (modern souvenir sheets), Japan, Rwanda, nice theme, vf.

Lot number 5027 Quality: Mix

Many Countries (including Belgium), large quantity of pictorial stamps, vignettes, tax stamps etc.... also postal items, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5028 Quality: MIX

Accumulation of Berlin ** and ERP FDC picture postcards, Switzerland classic letters 1843/1867 and 5 Rocket letters including Jubilee, vf

Lot number 5029 Quality: 0/❒

Old notebook full of vignettes, tax stamps, etc., including many Egypt, England, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5030 Quality: **/*/0

Various countries on cards, including many Lebanon ** with better souvenir sheets, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5031 Quality: (*)/0

Various countries, accumulation including Luxembourg (preos), Belgium (cancellations issue 1865), etc.... in 3 stockbooks, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5032 Quality: **/*/0

Accumulation of various countries, predominantly older period in 13 insert booklets, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5033 Quality: **/*/0

Various countries in 2 stockbooks and 1 album, including Dutch territories, English territories (including Rhodesia), Germany, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5034 Quality: **/*/0

Accumulation of various countries in stockbook, including Belgium with set Bruges **, vignettes, Spain, Germany, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5035 Quality: */0

Collection in Charm world album in mostly good quality, including China, vf/f.

Lot number 5036 Quality: **/0

Accumulation Belgium nominal + various themes in stockbook, vf/f.

Lot number 5037 Quality: ✉/PWST

Accumulation of over 150 postal (value) items, including many Switzerland f PWST, vf/f

Lot number 5038 Quality: (*)

Several hundred pictorial stamps in script, including Belgium, ntz

Lot number 5039 Quality: **/*/0

Accumulation of various countries including remainder collection Netherlands, in Schaubek album + 1 stockbook with unordered quantity of stamps many countries, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5040 Quality: **/*/0

Accumulation of various countries in ring binder and stockbook, including Belgium, France, Vatican, etc., vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5041 Quality: **/0

Various countries, accumulations including France (TX 90/112**), Belg. Congo, Burundi, Luxembourg,Austria, vf/f.

Lot number 5042 Quality: **

Portugal souvenir sheets 7 and 10 (both rusty) and Spain Barcelona 1943 souvenir sheets red and blue, be checked

Lot number 5043 Quality: **

Liechtenstein, Bosnia and Croatia, 80s, souvenir sheets, xx, in small stockbook, vf

Lot number 5044 Quality: 0

Accumulation of various countries in stockbook including annotations, Germany vignettes, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5045 Quality: **/*/0

All kinds of countries on large and small stock cards, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5046 Quality: **/*/0

ENORMOUS collection in 68 binders, including souvenir sheets Romania, German States, Belgium (also mint), also 67 stockbooks with doubles/stock lots of better stamps, great bargain!, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5047 Quality: **/*/0

Very extensive classification, various countries in 40 shoeboxes, mainly stamps and classified by number including France, Hungary, Romania, Denmark, Poland, Bulgaria, Portugal, Netherlands, Greece, Luxembourg, etc., also some postal items present, interesting collection from old to modern, tens of thousands of stamps (+ magnifying glass lamp), vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5048 Quality: **/*/0

Many 1,000s of stamps on cards, including better ones, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5049 Quality: **/*/0

Many 1,000s of stamps on cards, including better material, ENORMOUS cat. value,varied qualities, vf/to be checked.

Lot number 5050 Quality: **/*/0

Various items in stockbooks including Bund **, Europe CEPT, Italy, Channel Islands, interesting sale, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5051 Quality: **/*/0

Accumulation of various countries in 12 books, including Belgium, GDR, Reich, Netherlands, Great Britain, theme, vf/f/to be checked (High catalogue value)

Lot number 5052 Quality: **/*/0

Very varied item, including letters Germany, 3 year sets Luxembourg, souvenir sheets Spain, Italy States, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5053 Quality: **/*/0

Miscellaneous in stockbooks, including Austria, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Europe CEPT, Italy, Spain, vf/f.

Lot number 5054 Quality: **/*/0

Miscellaneous in stockbooks, including nice theme, mostly countries outside Europe including Asia, many English areas, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5055 Quality: **/0

World collection in 22 stockbooks and 2 Victoria's, including 11 stockbooks black of Edel collections, alphabetically by country/album, including Belgian Congo, China, etc., inventory by lot, vf

Lot number 5056 Quality: **/*/0

Accumulation various countries 16 books or folders, including France, USA, Belgian territories, Germany, Italy, Scandinavia, French territories, South America, Commonwealth, Greece, Vatican, Britain, China, etc., vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5057 Quality: **/*/0

Accumulation of various countries in 7 stockbooks, including Indonesia, Israel, Netherlands, Bund, Austria, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Belgium, Greece, Yugoslavia, Spain, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5058 Quality: **/*/0

Miscellaneous in albums and others, including collection Austria ** in 3 albums, Vatican special, collection Greece **, Gibraltar, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5059 Quality: **/*/0

Various countries in binders, including Middle East, Yugoslavia (incl. Bosnia, Serbia and Montenegro), Vatican, Ireland, Philippines, Qatar, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5060 Quality: **/*/0

Various countries, accumulation in 200 exchange booklets, including Great Britain, Czechoslovakia, Ireland, Scandinavia, Austria, French territories, China, Eng. territories, South America, Italy, Reich, mostly cancelled, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5061 Quality: **/*/0

Accumulation of various countries and periods in covers, exchange books, boxes, for the patient finder, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5062 Quality: **/*/0

Various countries on cards, in pergamine bags, etc., including North and South America, Andorra, Italy, Scandinavia, Belgium, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5063 Quality: **/*/0

Better stamps on cards, including many outside Europe, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5064 Quality: **/*/0

Accumulation of many countries and themes in 14 stockbooks, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5065 Quality: **

Several hundred booklets Belgium and Channel Islands loose, vf (High catalogue value)

Lot number 5066 Quality: **/*/0

Various periods, 4 old world albums, 3 of them reasonably full, mostly cancelled, loose values full sets, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5067 Quality: **/*/0

10,000s of stamps in 4 boxes, 1 box full of loose stamps, other boxes with boxes, old albums, etc.... vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5068 Quality: 0

27 stockbooks varied theme, Germany, Belgian territories, etc., vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5069 Quality: **

Collections in 4 books with Azores, Madeira, Channel Islands, year of the child, compass Europe, vf

Lot number 5070 Quality: **/*/0

Various countries on cards mostly outside Europe, including Portuguese and French areas, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5071 Quality: **/*/0

Many countries, accumulation in 230 swap booklets, including Yugoslavia, USA, Netherlands, Poland, Hungary, Egypt, Japan, India, Kampuchea, French territories, Ned. Indies, etc.... mostly cancelled, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5072 Quality: MIX

Large number of club books and box of loose material including England from classics and areas, also essays, varieties, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5073 Quality: **/*/0

Various countries in albums and stockbooks, including Luxembourg, Vatican, Eastern Europe, Switzerland, Austria, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5074 Quality: **/*/0

Huge quantity of stamps, in cellophane bags, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5075 Quality: **/*/0

Countries outside Europe in stockbooks, including Canada, French territories, English and Portuguese territories, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5076 Quality: **/0

Various countries and periods, accumulation in 7 folders, with stamps, HK and postal items, including Belgium, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5077 Quality: **/*/0

Various items in stockbooks including Berlin, Rwanda, France, theme, China, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5078 Quality: **/*/0

Various countries, interesting lot to check carefully, including collection of Ghent Floralies, UPU, Hong Kong **, Belgium, etc..... vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5079 Quality: **/*/0

Large quantity of stamps on cards, including nice material, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5080 Quality: **/*/0

Miscellaneous items in albums and stockbooks, including Switzerland, Netherlands, Italy, Liechtenstein, Man, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5081 Quality: 0

Accumulation of various countries and periods in 9 stockbooks including Malta, Albania, Commonwealth, French territories, Britain, South America, theme, Iran, France, etc., vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5082 Quality: **/*/0

Accumulation of various countries in 13 books, including Belgian territories, France, theme, etc., vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5083 Quality: **/*/0

Interesting accumulation of various countries and periods in covers and stockbook, including Belgium and Liechtenstein, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5084 Quality: MIX

Miscellaneous items in albums and stockbooks, including special album WWF, Czechoslovakia, Israel FDCs, club booklets, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5085 Quality: MIX

Various items in books and folders including WWF, locals like Lundy, Staffa, collection Isle of Man, folder Netherlands including legion blocks *, collection Chile and Cuba in binder, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5086 Quality: **/*/0

Various countries in stockbooks including Switzerland, Monaco, Italy, Spain, Netherlands, Luxembourg, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5087 Quality: **/*/0

Miscellaneous in stockbooks, including Greenland, Finland, Denmark, Baltic States, TAAF, Macau (modern), vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5088 Quality: **/*/0

Various countries, varia- surprise box, with stamps, postal items, catalogue, vf/f.

Lot number 5089 Quality: **/*/0

ENORMOUS amount of stamps in cellophane bags, vf/f/to be checked.

Lot number 5090 Quality: **/*/0

Miscellaneous European countries in stockbooks, including Sweden, Russia, Italy, Europe CEPT, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5091 Quality: **/*/0

Miscellaneous items in stockbooks, including Indonesia interim, DDR **, Reich, Bund, England and territories, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5092 Quality: **/*/0

Various items in stockbooks, including Spain, Egypt, Finland, English and French territories, Norway, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5093 Quality: **/*/0

Various countries in stockbooks including Switzerland, Austria, Albania, also album with collection outside Europe, vf/f/to be checked

Lot number 5094 Quality: **/*/0

Surprise box of various countries and issues, stamps, postal items, etc....